redgirl1974's Logboek, 14 mrt 16

According to Jim Stoppani, Ph.D, doctor of exercise physiology, you should eat gummy bears immediately after your workout. “Fast-digesting carbs hit your blood stream quicker, causing insulin to spike. Fast-digesting carbs are ideal after a workout." what is everyone's thought on this?
He says the main reason to consume carbs post-workout is to replenish the muscle glycogen that you burned during your workout. He says as you train, your main fuel source is muscle glycogen. Glycogen is the storage form of glucose. It is composed of long strings of glucose molecules with numerous branches.The glucose break from the glycogen chain as needed in order to generate ATP, which transports chemical energy and is crucial for muscle contractions.He says research confirms that the best way to replenish muscle glycogen stores after workouts is to consume high-glycemic (fast-digesting) carbs as soon as possible.Fully replenishing your muscle glycogen levels as quickly as possible after workouts is important for growth. Stored glycogen in muscle cells pulls water into those cells. This increases the muscle cell volume and therefore muscle fiber fullness.
Where are my gurus?? If I do low carb and then eat a handful of gummies wont that slow my loss? He says nothing about losing weight only building muscle.. I just want everyone's opinion so I can make a educated decision.. Also Im worried gummies would be a "gateway" food and open the door to more cheating..

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Aurora. You might want to take a look at my food journal before you decide this is only a low carber hangout. Low starchy carbs? Yeah, probably, but that doesn't mean we don't do outside the (Betty Crocker) box from time to time. 
14 mrt 16 door lid: northernmusician
Or maybe you were wondering how a 'nutritiounist' snuck in here? :D 
14 mrt 16 door lid: northernmusician
The idea sounds nice... I'd reach for some Nerds! Or gobstoppers! Oh, just the thought of candy makes me want some ☹️ 
14 mrt 16 door lid: jessberry
Specifically, Jess, you'd be looking for dextrose. Sweetarts are 98%. Checked it with the manufacturer. Wanna talk nerds? :D 
15 mrt 16 door lid: northernmusician
I can't think that eating sugar is ever a good thing. Doesn't mean I don't do it, of course! Slow-release carbs are always better, surely? Sugar spikes are bad at any time, as far as I know! 
15 mrt 16 door lid: heidij123
Yes...Dr. Stoppani is 100% correct, post workout of weight-lifting, you want a carb spike to preserve and build muscle. If your sole purpose of weigh-loss is losing "weight" and not building any muscle and really not caring if you lose muscle or fat, then skip it. As for Ketone's and ATP, etc... Yes..you can still be Ketogenic and spike carbs post-workout, it's not one of the other. As for any carb spikes being "bad", this is false...100% false. FYI, I save any Chocolate or Donuts for after workouts with my protein shake. :-) 
15 mrt 16 door lid: mahjohn
In my HUMBLE opinion (as a non-dietician/exercise physiologist), you should eat carbs BEFORE a workout, and protein AFTER, to rebuild the muscles used during the workout - assuming the workout was actually hard enough to really require this. For those of us trying to lose weight, unless the workout was over 1 hour you probably don't need anything but water. My workouts are usually in the 30 - 50 minute range, so I don't normally have anything pre- or post-workout. 
15 mrt 16 door lid: Toni Bourlon
As an avid marathoner, this is only in the case of a long/extreme intensity workout (90 minutes +). At the end of an intense workout, the muscles need a blend of carbs and protein to rebuild. Bananas and apples are excellent sources of carbs without the un-natural sugars  
15 mrt 16 door lid: Erinsingspraise
Chocolate and donuts might be lower GI than gummy bears due to presence of fat? And bananas and apples also slower than gummy bears due to presence of fibre? Just guessing! Tennis players take bites of banana between games to keep blood sugar up, don't they? 
15 mrt 16 door lid: heidij123
@Taurielfan: Pre-Workout carbs do not provide the insulin response when needed after workout, as you should be about 1hr post workout at that time. If you are looking to lose weight, pre-workout carbs would not be good. Why would you give you body a source of energy to use for a workout, when you want it to tap into the reserves you have stored (fat). Here is WHY you need carbs+protein+amino's post-workout. Protein and Amino's are essential in the muscle repair/rebuild process however, they are not very good at making their way to where they are needed. Protein is Insulinogenic and will produce an insulin response by itself due to three amino acid's in dairy, which is why a Protein only shake will suffice for some but not all. What Protein and Amino's need is a Taxi. They need something to help carry them into cells where they are needed. That is the role of carbs, simple carbs to be precise. A does of simple carbs gives a good insulin spike, insulin then carries the glucose, proteins, and amino's into muscle cells giving you a better delivery system for your protein and amino's. If you're taking protein, make the most of it. For during workouts..Some Amino's with Electrolytes will go along way to improving exercise performance and speeding recovery. 
15 mrt 16 door lid: mahjohn
@heidij123: Fats + Carbs do not result in a lower insulin response, only Fiber slows the rate of absorption. Donuts, Chocolates, Creme Eggs, or a scoop of pure Dextrose if i'm out of candy. 
15 mrt 16 door lid: mahjohn
For a long time fat was considered to slow the insulin response because it slows the release of contents of the stomach. In fact the insulin response has since been proven to be the same regardless of the presence of fat. Diet science is ongoing, which is why people show up here and give out errant advice. They learned what they know many years ago. It's just a learning curve. 
15 mrt 16 door lid: northernmusician
agreed...you can never assume you have all the answers and constantly have to relearn, validate, check sources, etc.. I just wish Dr's were as diligent instead of writing their hieroglyphic script for the next prescription 
15 mrt 16 door lid: mahjohn
Gummie bears ??? Seriously? Why not just have some whole natural fruit? 
15 mrt 16 door lid: Panigale1199
It always scares me when I have to see a doctor in his 70s. I have my research done before I go in to a GP 
15 mrt 16 door lid: northernmusician
Also above I see people writing that you need to do that to build muscle. In the last 8 months I have built a lot of muscle and strength and I have never eaten a gummy bear right after my intense workouts. I either eat an apple or go straight to eating dinner which would be salmon or steak/chicken with a bunch of steamed veggies and maybe a potato or fruit. To each their own I guess 
15 mrt 16 door lid: Panigale1199
Funny, my diet says just the opposite. They emphasize NO SUGAR after a workout, especially. Somehow it takes away from your gains. 
15 mrt 16 door lid: warrenwinter
@Paningale1199: Candy..specifically Pixy Stix and Gummy Bears are 'Dextrose', while Fruit is 'Glucose/Fructose' mix. Fruit only does not give you nearly the insulin spike you're looking for, as Fructose can only be processed by the liver. And NO...you don't "Need" it to build muscle as you get an insulin response from Protein, however, a greater use of Protein can be derived from the addition of post-workout carbs.  
15 mrt 16 door lid: mahjohn
@ Mahjohn - Yes understood, but why still eat it? It's processed food. Why not even eat a potato? Or organic rice! I mean at least those are natural whole foods. Gummy bears made in a factory with all kinds of crap may give you a bigger spike, but it isn't helping other parts of your body like your gut for instance. Or even better. Have honey water...honey is a natural sugar and derived from bees. Still not made in a factory. I feel like I had to look for a spike- wouldn't honey be a healthier and more nutrient option? 
15 mrt 16 door lid: Panigale1199
Sorry, to chime in again. Doesn't it seem, especially when you look at an age related disease like diabetes, SUGAR IS JUST BAD, plain and simple. TASTES GREAT, But BAD, BAD, BAD!!!  
15 mrt 16 door lid: warrenwinter

     
 

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